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Etruscan Vases

Etruscan Vases was a pattern first produced by T & J Mayer c. 1841 and continued by successive manufacturers at the Dale Hall Works in the pottery town of Burslem, England. 

 

  
     

 


Etruscan:

A number of manufacturers produced designs which included the pattern name 'Etruscan'. 

"In the early years of the 19th Century Etruscan became a magic word. The Etruscans were a highly developed people who lived in the area known as Etruria.." The Dictionary of Blue and White Printed Pottery; Coysh and Henrywood. 

(Etruscan civilisation - Wikipedia).

 

The Mayer Brothers pattern: 

It was the Mayer brothers pattern which gained popularity and was produced in large quantities and many kinds of ware and variations of the design. 

"The pattern itself definitely had style, displaying an infinitely variable group of familiar and correctly-shaped Greek vases – Amphora for wine, Krater for mixing wine and water, Hydria for water, Kylix as wide shallow drinking bowl on high foot, and Lekythos for funerary oil – posed with one or two incongruous metal candelabra on a shelf supported by a wide scroll or a pair of corbels. Evoking the hallowed name Etruria, well known from Wedgwood's factory name and the fine Black and Red Figure vases produced there in parallel with those of Greece until the end of the 4C BC, the distinctive slightly austere pattern possessed an integrity and purity which harked back to the Greek Revival of the early 19C" 

ETRUSCAN VASES, by Robin Hildyard. First published in the Oxford Ceramics Group Newsletter 48 November 2020 pages 16 –19

 

Note that there were slight variations in the arrangement of the vases   

 

 

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Origin of the Etruscan Vases pattern
T & J Mayer
T. J. & J. Mayer (Mayer Bros)
Mayer Bros & Elliot
Mayer & Elliot
Liddle Elliot & Son
Bates, Elliot & Co
Bates, Walker & Co
Bates, Gildea & Walker
Gildea & Walker
James Gildea (& Co)
Manufacturer dating and marking
Examples of variations of the Etruscan Vases pattern

 

 


 

 

 

 

Origin of the Etruscan Vases pattern: 

 

 


Title page

Vases from the Collection of Sir Henry Englefield Bt. drawn and engraved by H. Moses, printed in London and generally dated as 1819 or 1820

Robin Hildyard suggests that engravings from this book were the inspiration for the Mayer 'Etruscian Vases' pattern:

 

"The vases themselves were engraved with an almost mechanical precision which provided a strong image but gave scant regard to the spirit of the original, while the subjects of these painted vases in their tableaux were viewed not as art objects but discussed in a didactic way as historical scenes in need of correct interpretation in the context of Greek life and mythology.

Such pedantic treatment, however, could all be forgiven after the discovery, at the back of the book, of two tableaux on scroll bases (plates 35, 36) which were surely the original inspiration for Etruscan Vases." (emphasis added)


plate 35

plate 36

 

 

 


 

Thomas and John Mayer
c. 1841-3 

- more on Thomas and John Mayer -

 

 


Etruscan Vases
T & J Mayer
Longport

 

 

 


Etruscan Vases
T & J Mayer
Longport

 

 

 


 

T. J. & J. Mayer (Mayer Bros)
c. 1844-55 

- more on Mayer Bros -

 

- images needed - 

 

 

 

 


 

 

Mayer Bros & Elliot
c. 1855-58 

- more on Mayer Bros & Elliot -

 

 

- images of ware needed - 

 


Etruscan Vases
LE & S

The script initials 'LE & S' show that the Etruscan Vases ware with this mark was made by Liddle, Elliot & Son who operated at the Dale Hall Works from April 1860 to around 1871. 

However the registration diamond shows that the design/pattern was registered by Mayer Brothers and Elliot on the 17 October 1857 (design number 111642). 

It is known that the pattern was first produced c. 1841 by Thomas & John Mayer - it appears that they produced the pattern in a blue printed design and probably Mayer Brothers and Elliot registered the polychrome design. 

 

 

 

 

 

 




 

Mayer & Elliot
c. 1858 - April 1860 

- more on Mayer & Elliot -

 

 


Etruscan Vases
M&E

 

 

 

 



 

 

Liddle, Elliot & Son
April 1860 - c. 1871  

- more on Liddle, Elliot & Son -

 

 

 

 


Etruscan Vases
L E & S

see note above regarding the diamond mark

 

 

 


Etruscan Vases
L E & S

as well as the initials this plate has an impressed 7/62 which is the manufacturing date (July 1862) which confirms the manufacturer as Liddle, Elliot & Son. 

 

 

 


Liddle, Elliot & Son

courtesy: Robin Hildyard

 

 



Bates, Elliot & Co
1871 - August 1875

- more on Bates, Elliot & Co -

 

 

 

 


Etruscan Vases

this plate does not have a manufacturers name - but has an impressed 8/74 which is the manufacturing date (August 1874) which confirms the manufacturer as Bates, Elliot & Co. 


 

 

 

 


 


Bates, Walker & Co
7th August 1875 - August 1878

- more on Bates, Walker & Co -

 

 

 


Etruscan Vases

this plate does not have a manufacturers name - but has an impressed 8/75 which is the manufacturing date (August 1875) 

 The partnership of Bates, Elliot & Co. was dissolved on the 7th August 1875 and became Bates, Walker & Co - this platter could have been made by either manufacturer.

 

 

 

 

 

 


Etruscan Vases

the impressed 4/78 (April 1878) confirms Bates, Walker & Co 
was the manufacturer.

 

 

 


this vase is the Etruscan Vases pattern even though 
the mark does not have the pattern name


English Porcelain
B W & Co 

impressed: Bates & Walker - the manufacturing date is not clear

it was the predecessor Bates, Elliot & Co who 
introduced the kneeling potter mark

  

 

 

 


 

Bates, Gildea & Walker
August 1878 - 1881

- more on Bates, Gildea & Walker -

 

 


Etruscan Vases

the impressed 3/81 (March 1881) confirms the 
manufacturer as Bates, Gildea & Walker


 

 

 



 

Gildea & Walker
1881-85

- more on Gildea & Walker -

 

- images needed - 

 

 

 

 



 

James Gildea (& Co)
1885-88

- more on James Gildea -

 

 


Etruscan Vases

impressed name - GILDEA and 
manufacturing date of 3/85

 

 

 

 


 

 

 

 

 

Manufacturer dating and marking:

Manufacturers were not as consistent in marking their ware as perhaps we would like them to have been! 

  • It was not unusual for only a few items in a whole dinner set to have a mark with the makers name or initials. 

  • Fortunately many of the pieces were marked with an impressed month/year of manufacture - for example 8/73 shows that the ware was made in August 1873 and so the manufacturer has to be Bates, Elliot & Co. This is a useful way of identifying the maker. 

  • When a change of partnership occurred it is not possible to tell which company produced the ware during a given month - in actual fact it doesn't particularly matter as the factory, workers remained the same and it was often just one partner who left or joined. 

  • Occasionally the pattern name is missing - this should not be considered as an issue. The Etruscan Vases pattern is quite distinctive and there is no evidence that it was copied by others. 

Ware was generally sold through a retailer, distributor or agent and so stock movement would mean that when pieces were sold individually or as part of a set they would not necessarily all be from the same partnership.  

Also note that there were slight variations in the arrangement of the vases.  


 

 

 

The following four pieces, all from the same collection, illustrate the various markings.

  • Manufacturing ranges over a five year period from May 1873 to August 1878.

  • Only one has a full makers name - but no pattern name.

  • All have an impressed date mark.

  • At least two makers were involved - perhaps three as the oval platter was made in August 1878 - this means that the manufacturer could either be Bates, Walker & Co. or Bates, Gildea & Walker as the partners changed in August 1878. 

photos courtesy: Ralph Fritsch

 

 

 

 

Item makers name mark? pattern name? impressed date manufacturer
Dinner plate yes no 5/73 Bates, Elliot & Co.
Serving platter with handles no yes 8/73 Bates, Elliot & Co.
Soup bowl no yes 7/78 Bates, Walker & Co.
Oval platter no yes 8/78 Bates, Walker & Co. or Bates, Gildea & Walker 

 

 

 

 

this dinner plate has the makers mark for Bates, Elliot & Co who operated from 1871 to  August 1875 - it has an impressed date but no pattern name


English Porcelain
B E & Co 

impressed the manufacturing date of 5/73

Bates, Elliot & Co introduced the kneeling potter mark - this mark was used by successive companies. 

1790 is the date that the Dale Hall Works was first established. 

 

 

 

this serving platter has no manufacturers name 
- it has an impressed date and a printed pattern name

 


Etruscan Vases

the impressed 8/73 (August 1873) confirms the manufacturer as Bates, Elliot & Co. 

 

 

 

 

this soup bowl has no manufacturers name 
- it has an impressed date and a printed pattern name

 


Etruscan Vases

the impressed 7/78 (July 1878) confirms the manufacturer as Bates, Walker & Co 

 

 

 

 

this oval platter has no manufacturers name 
- it has an impressed date and a printed pattern name

 


Etruscan Vases

 

this platter does not have a manufacturers name - the impressed 8/78 (August 1878) means that the manufacturer could either be Bates, Walker & Co. or Bates, Gildea & Walker as the partners changed in August 1878. 

 

 

 

 


 

 

Examples of variations of the Etruscan Vases pattern: 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Questions, comments, contributions? email: Steve Birks


 

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